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  Most Damning Publication?

  by Wild_Thing in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  of all of the watchtower's many publications dating now to all the way back to russell, which one publication is the most damning in showing they are a complete crachpot of a religion?

  and i course, i mean which original publication before they changed a few words and reprinted!.

  personally, i think it is probably russell's the divine plan of the ages.

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  Black Sheep

  The article, "What is Truth?" in the first edition of the WT
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  My Child Has Asked Me to Divorce Husband

  by HeyThere in

  1. social
  2. family

  i guess i am just venting.

  its a mess.

  i just dont even know where to start with this crap.

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  Black Sheep

  Don't tell him anything that he doesn't, or shouldn't, already know from WT literature.

  Be the one to ask the questions.

  Insist that he answers them.

  Don't answer his, he is usually just trying to change the subject.

  Give him a guilt trip for every trick he tries to use to change the subject or weasel his way out of confronting the question.

  Give him a guilt trip for any tactic he ties to use to bully you into excepting no answer, or a nonsense answer.

  ... and let your kid hear it all ...
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  When a JW's life comes close to its end...

  by suavojr in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  talking with a long time elder last night, was very revealing.

  he has been a jw for over 60 years, a man that was incarcerated in cuba in his early 20s and faced great loss and suffering over his beliefs and for being born in a communist country.

  this brave man is now brittle and low-spirited.. while nightfalls on his life, he is made aware the end is near.

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  Black Sheep

  They stuck around after the WT's failures because they didn't have the cajones to admit they had been made fools of.

  Did you listen to the interviews with Harold Camping's followers after the rapture never arrived? Same logic, different cult. Followers so wanting not to admit they had been stupid in giving their life's saving to a loser, that they still maintained that Camping had some kind of Devinely inspired purpose and still were not prepared to abandon him.
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  Any ideas for my return visit?

  by KateWild in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i had a really fun day today.

  i went to town on first call to witness to the jws on the trolley outside the main train station in the city.

  i had prepared two different presentations depending on whether or not the jws knew me.. if they knew me i planned to tell them how unjust my last jc was and that i didn't believe jehovah cared about me or anyone, and if they didin't know me i would just question them about their disfellowshipping policy.

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  Black Sheep

  Even if the Dub doesn't 'get it' it a great anti-witness. You already saw that. I bet your friend won't be in a hurry to sign up with The Nutter's Club.
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  Any ideas for my return visit?

  by KateWild in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i had a really fun day today.

  i went to town on first call to witness to the jws on the trolley outside the main train station in the city.

  i had prepared two different presentations depending on whether or not the jws knew me.. if they knew me i planned to tell them how unjust my last jc was and that i didn't believe jehovah cared about me or anyone, and if they didin't know me i would just question them about their disfellowshipping policy.

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  Black Sheep

  Can you take a friend with you when you do a 'return visit'?

  If a JW is going to sound like a fanatical cult member, they need to know that they are doing it with an audience so that they will think about what they said while they try to get to sleep at night.
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  Did I say too much, and scare away my elderette? What has happened to Miss K?

  by Faithful Witness in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i have had 3 sessions of what is most likely being tracked as a "bible study" with an elderette who is from the kh we stopped attending about 3-4 years ago.. after last week's visit and bible verse study, she asked me if she should return.

  i had expressed concerns that she was a heretic, and i had a friend who had warned me not to let her into my house.

  i told her i had to think about whether i wanted to study the bible teach book with her.

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  Black Sheep

  I'm waiting for 'backcalls' from Mormons and JWs who have both made promises to answer my questions.

  I'm assuming that they have had busy weeks. Actually, it's turning into months now. Maybe time goes fast when you're having fun. They still have time to visit the prospective recruits over the road from me.
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  When a JW's life comes close to its end...

  by suavojr in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  talking with a long time elder last night, was very revealing.

  he has been a jw for over 60 years, a man that was incarcerated in cuba in his early 20s and faced great loss and suffering over his beliefs and for being born in a communist country.

  this brave man is now brittle and low-spirited.. while nightfalls on his life, he is made aware the end is near.

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  Black Sheep

  I've watched them die.

  It's all about not admittiing that they made a mistake by following a particular religious leader in their youth. The more failures their religious leader had before they joined, the more important it is that they don't admit those failures to you, or themselves.
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  Whats with TROLLS posting on this forum ,dont they just expose themselves as less than intelligent?

  by smiddy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i mean to say it only takes a couple of posts to identify a troll , what do they hope to acheive ?

  they only convince me, how stupid they are, with not a thinking cell in their brain .. do they think its another avenue to get fs hours in ?

  do they think their going to convince one of us to go back to the kh.?

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  Black Sheep

  A WT apologist isn't a troll. They are simply a WT apologist that that needs your help but doesn't understand that yet, and you are the helper that doesn't understand how to help.

  Learn what the definition of a troll is before you make accusations.
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  Who is the biggest Loser JW you have known

  by Clambake in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  it seems every cong seems to have some guy who is 35 and never had a job or moved out of mom and dads basement.. i knew a guy who just hand out magazines at work so he would get eventually fired and could sleep in till noon everyday.

  of course his elder father though he was a real matyr cause he kept losing jobs for jehovah.

  i have an electrican friend who apprenticed some jw kid till he got his ticket and he quit him to pioneering.

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  Black Sheep

  My parents. 70 years preaching their church's promises on behalf of a god that never bothers to show up to stop them looking like nutters.
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  CO is chasing me . Meeting him tomorrow.

  by Ancientofdays in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  this week is the "special week", co is back.. he phone called me this morning asking to meet together.. i replied "i don't refuse people who want talking to me, but my condition is that you must be alone, and we meet in public space.".

  he agreed and we will meet tomorrow in a cafe.. .

  this week he already met with my wife in the kh, and he told her "i believe your housband is apostate !!

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  Black Sheep

  If you don't play by their rules, they will do whatever is neccessary to protect their flock from you.